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#1 2006-03-27 11:54:27

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Une connaissance fonctionnaire du SPF finances m'informe que les AER du dernier exercice comportent des erreurs de deux origines différentes :

- le logiciel de calcul du SPF comportait des bugs qui ont engendrés des calculs erronés;

- le système étant nouveau, les fonctionnaires ont commis des erreurs lors de l'encodage.

Un conseil donc, informez vos clients et vérifiez les AER de façon approfondie.


La différence entre l'optimisation fiscale et la fraude fiscale ? La prison.

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#2 2006-03-27 13:35:12

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Très bon à savoir. Est-ce que cela concerne les AER IPP également ?


Qui connait les véritables origines de la comptabilité..le papyrus Boulaq 18.."Pertes & Profits"..,..Le dictionnaire hiéroglyphique ...

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#3 2006-03-27 14:01:20

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Cela fait 2 mois que la presse relate les (nombreuses) erreurs qui entâchent le calcul de l'ipp de l'ex d'imp 2005.

Depuis lors, les erreurs signalées (non imputation des VA - erreurs dans l'exonération de fait pour les revenus de remplacement - erreurs dans le calcul des frais forfaitaires) en, en principe, été corrigées

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#4 2006-03-27 15:57:03

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Par contre, j'ai plusieurs collègues qui sont étonnés de récupérer des Impots cette année alors qu'en général ils paient.

Et la différence n'est pas mince !!

Une raison ? Une erreur ? Un nouveau "mode de calcul"?


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#5 2006-03-27 16:11:10

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decumul des époux certainement!!!! #beer#

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#6 2006-03-27 18:46:33

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IPP aussi et surtout lorque des allocations sociales ont été perçues.


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#7 2006-03-28 08:57:17

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DR chef du MR aurait-il "enfin" compris:

1. que nous sommes tous trop ponctionné en amont et en aval,
2. que si il veut relancer la consommation et donc l'activité économique, le "peuple" a besoin de ressources.


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#8 2006-03-28 10:22:02

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#9 2006-03-28 10:40:16

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The way it works...

Sometimes Politicians can exclaim; "It's just a tax cut for the rich!", and it is just accepted to be fact. But what does that really mean? Just in case you are not completely clear on this issue, we hope the following will help.

Tax Cuts - A Simple Lesson in Economics

This is how the cookie crumbles. Please read it carefully.

Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh $7.
The eighth $12.
The ninth $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20."

So, now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?

The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.

So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man "but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore. There are lots of good restaurants in Europe and the Caribbean.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Distinguished Professor of Economics
536 Brooks Hall
University of Georgia

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#10 2006-03-28 20:34:15

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apparement il y a même des erreurs de scaning dans les AER en effet un de mes clients viens d'en avoir la surprise précompte de madame scanné pour un montant de 354.97 euros au lieu de
3514.97 d'ou impôt à payer 1.500 euros au lieu d'en percevoir
1500 euros que c'est beau l'informatisation de l'administration
bien à vous


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#11 2006-03-28 21:27:32

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#12 2006-03-29 08:37:55

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